Narcissism vs. Universality

Published January 07, 2022 · 31:48 · 250,893 views

About This Video

Van is two weeks behind on a video and the problem isn't writer's block. He's written too much. The problem is plot block. He knows the conflict (is this whole thing pretentious and narcissistic?), the resolution, and the middle bit (influence). He can't connect them.

The middle bit takes him to Void, a bar on Mercer Street he'd never entered, on a night in the year 2000 when a film festival was screening 20 short films to maybe 40 people. These weren't TV, commercials, or music videos. They were art films with embedded narrative, and they changed what Van thought was possible. The conflict is the question he can't stop asking: is talking into a camera a real job? Preparing power lines for the Santa Anas so the canyon doesn't burn. That's a real job. This YouTube business is more like a hobby gone feral. Cornel West provides the resolution: anytime you give fully of yourself, elements of your old self are dying because a new self is emerging.

Transcript

undefined undefined undefined undefined I'm two weeks behind on this video and it's making me very uneasy

and the reason is not riter's [Music] block I've actually written too much the reason is plot block which is to say that I'm struggling with the structure of this

video I know the conflict of this video and I know

the resolution of this video and I know the middle bit of this

video but what I'm struggling with is how to connect the middle

bit to the conflict and resolution and the middle bit is usually what videos and movies and books are about the conflict and the resolution

are just tricks to get you to watch the middle bit and the middle bit of this video is

about influence and I'm having trouble connecting it to the

conflict and the resolution this is my 10 bullet mock

this is Tom Sach Studio uniform I learned this undefined undefined

trick on the new Yankee Workshop which had a huge influence on me as a kid and

influenced my film making or video making career and the trick is if you're using

wood glue use this kind and wet both surfaces to be joined because it draws the glue into the fibers of the

wood please please please please please please please please this is the best thing that

happened to me today it clamps perfectly [Music] undefined undefined I just heard something from Brother Cornell that I think I'm going through and I'm going to play for you

[Music] anytime you give fully of yourself there are elements of your old self that are dying because a new self is in the process of

emerging and I think that's part of the reason why I'm having so much trouble writing this

episode something's dying and something is being born

[Music] undefined undefined and the conflict is this is this whole whole thing pretentious and narcissistic this talking into a camera

calling myself a spirited man uh is this a real job that's a real job preparing power

lines for the Santa anas so the canyon doesn't burn down that's a real

job this YouTube business it's more like a hobby gone feral gone rabid

so it occurs to me that I captured a moment when some part

of me died so that a new point a new part of me could emerge I captured it it

exists and maybe that's why the Goldfish movie is so important to me undefined undefined

[Music] year 2000 probably summer I was riding down Mercer Street I never took Mercer Street home and void was a

bar and they had this sign with a falling D I think it was a lowercase D

and I think that the V was the only capitalized letter but I'm not

sure I'd never been there before and I don't know why but I went in by myself

and there was this Film Festival going on and it was maybe 40 people in the bar it was probably just the

film makers and their friends and they played maybe 20 films

short films 1 to 3 minutes long back then internet video barely worked so

there was almost no internet video and the only things that regular people I'm

a regular person ever saw were TV movies commercials and music videos on MTV but

these films were none of those you could call these films art films but they

weren't boring they had at the core of them some kind of narrative some kind of

uh embedded subtle narrative they were films they were shot and

projected on film I believe one I remember particularly but not vividly this is a three minute or so long video that I saw once over 20 years

ago but it is it's burned in my mind as a turning point this night at void might be the original influence that begat this compulsion to go in a certain unknown

Direction the whole lot of them all the films left this impression on me but I remember this one

specifically and I'm going to describe it to [Music] you now I understand that my description can't possibly convey to you the weight

that this film had on me and I'm going to throw some images in

here that I shot yesterday so that my description is less boring but this

video at void the whole frame what you're looking at is

fog or a Mist it looks like you're in a we're in a cloud and a pretty woman in

her 20s appears in the right of the frame I think she she wanders in and this thing's shot documentary

style uh the camera's locked off and it I don't think it was set up so there's a woman standing in the

fog to the right of the frame and you can see her head to toe she's kind of far away

and the fog is coming from somewhere but it's also the atmosphere of the frame

we're in the fog and from The Unseen source of the fog these little kids keep

running into the frame and then running back to the source of the fog and these are African-American kids

so the brown skin and the white Mist it's just fing beautiful man the music there was no sound just music and this

is going to ruin it for a lot of you but the song was relatively new at the time so it was okay but the music was

Sweetest Thing by you two so the kids run in and out of this

fog elated they're elated and the woman the Pretty Woman at some

point turns to the camera as if to say are you seeing

this she's a stranger to the kids we think but one of the kids runs up and he throws his arms around her

waist and this puts her in hysterics because he's soaking

wet because it turns out [Music] what we're looking at is the mist from a pulled fire hydrant and these kids are

running in and out of the Mist and the ladies just watching I to this day I have no idea how they shot it because the whole thing is just a white cloud

but it was happening in real life [Music] you know these things just Mushroom in your mind and I and sometimes it's Sublime you know

so the influence that those films I saw at void had on me begat a video I made that was a turning

point in my life and I think in the video in this goldfish video we see the undefined undefined

exact moment when the filmmaker or the video maker emerged

at the time of seeing the videos at void and making this goldfish video I had a job at Scholastic publishing writing for

a kids science magazine I wanted to be a magazine writer like Hunter Thompson or Tom Wolf back in the

day and the videos were just a [Music] hobby each issue of the Scholastic Science magazine would publish and

answer a science question sent in by the readers and somehow I got my hands on a

list of a hundred of these questions sent in by high school kids and one of the questions I think

it's the one that they ended up publishing in the magazine the question was can a goldfish live in Mountain

Dew I thought it was hilarious ious and uh I thought the other questions were kind of sad and beautiful so I made a

video to see if a goldfish could live in Mountain Dew and that's what this

is I'm shooting I drained the water with a turkey baster filled the glass with Mountain

Dew and when the Goldfish was floating there seemingly dead I panicked though a

veterinarian would later tell me that the carbon dioxide had simply knocked the fish out and that in that school students would knock out fish with CO2

for some reason so chill out Peta so the fish is floating there some kind of divine inspiration comes over me and I

remember this Legend from high school wherein Dave Reynolds def fiul a dead frog with a 9volt

battery so off camera tape still rolling I tear the 9volt out of my telephone answering

machine touch it to the Goldfish and bang the fish comes out of it and the that particular fish live

just as long as the underst study fish I bought in case this one died I think um

I think I bought five fish for this video just in case but I had not planned to shock the thing back to life that

that was just it just came to me during the [Applause] shooting I don't know that I've ever felt that high

before as when I touch the battery to the to the to the

Goldfish and I think that moment of the battery touching the

Goldfish was the moment the magazine writer died and like Cornell West talked about the filmmaker video maker

emerged that was uh 21 years ago and not long after that I made my first internet undefined undefined

video and sort of establish the two families of videos that I would continue to

make for the next 20 years I didn't know until this project

that you had to season a chalkboard before you used it

the background noise is [Music] rain 6 months after making the Holland Tunnel I turned Pro albeit at $10 an hour Tom Sachs undefined undefined

hired me as a fabricator and I made a bunch of videos with him too saxs has been my biggest professional influence undefined undefined

he taught me how to build things this is around the same time that Casey and I began working together Casey made some of the saxs videos too after working at

Sach studio all day Casey and I made as many videos as we could all the time we were working all the time one of Sax's

collectors a man named Tom Healey commissioned Casey and me to make a video series that we called science

experiments and like the saxs videos these science experiments videos played in museums all over the world undefined undefined

Casey and I made a video about the first generation iPods crap battery the video went viral this was before YouTube so it

was a corporate media story and that was a big break for us publicity wise and from then on we were making video videos

all the time figuring out how to hustle to make a living at it okay influences we were watching DVDs all the undefined undefined

time DVDs of anything we loved mostly Cinema over and over again during lunch

during breaks in the background while we were working and a lot of the DVDs at the time had what they called

director's commentary so you could watched the movie and listen to the movie's writers and directors talking

about their experiences making the movie also some DVDs had behind the scenes stuff you

could watch um Wes Anderson's Royal Tenon bals had particularly good director's commentary and a particularly

good behind the scenes little featurette um and I think the firsters film making stuff what they probably

call Vlogs now I think for us it came from the director's commentary and behind the scenes

featurettes there were also two documentaries U masterpieces about the difficulties of making movies one was

called hearts of darkness by Elanor copela about the making of Apocalypse Now and one was by Les blank about the

making of Verner herzog's Fitz coraldo and that one was called the burden of Dreams the burden of Dreams burden of

Dreams sent us down the Herzog Rabbit Hole he's in many of his own documentaries and I believe he does the

voiceover for all of them so there was this very delicate idea that you could put yourself in your own work so long as

you were careful enough not to be narcissistic and to this day I struggle with that line between

narcissism and universality [Music] undefined undefined this video you're watching now yes it's about me shamefully but really it's about my work and hopefully the struggle

of creative work in general a brave man a third Tom Tom undefined undefined

Scott financed what would become the niist St Brothers HBO bought it um we

made it first but then HBO bought it it took two years to make and another year to get it aired I think uh I became an

egomaniac after that or maybe I was always an egomaniac and the HBO deal

gave me the confidence to be a Shameless egomaniac but it was incredibly fun we

had so much fun and you know that journey of up to making that is the life you when you fantasize about oh I'm

gonna be a professional so and so and go on all these Adventures that was that that that was that part of

life but I hurt a lot of important people around me and I got deep into drinking and

drugs and I just generally went crazier we shot a second season of the ni Brothers which HBO did not buy thank

God because looking back on it now it's embarrassing and mortifying and when I see the footage I

cringe I split from C went broke Tom Sachs bless him hired me to make 10 bullets which he wrote with undefined undefined

John Ferguson saxs continued hiring me to make more and more videos about his Studio I was happily getting away from

myself these videos were not about me they were about Tom's work I made a pilot for my own show which probably

would have worked as a YouTube channel but I just wasn't thinking in Internet terms in those days uh in 2012 sax and I

began making a feature film called a space program I quit drinking and drugs

and began the brutal process of growing up and becoming a man I was so old at

the time uh when we wrapped on that I went to Mexico I had just had it with the first person stuff I had it with the

I Me Mine bull a space program went to South by Southwest and it was released in 2016 undefined undefined

that year 2016 for fun I made a video that I called the spirited man I hadn't made a video for fun I don't know five

or six years this I it was a third person omniscient video it wasn't about van it was

about my favorite part of myself the spirit and I was really just watching and reading the serious filmmakers at

this point the Giants of contemporary Cinema sax and I wrote this video called Paradox bullets it's about um using your

intuition when trapped in a paradox and wouldn't you know somehow saak figured out how to get verer Herzog

to narrate it this is what distinguishes us from the cows in the

field and um it felt like we made a verer Herzog film saxs and I and his team went on to make this fun surfing

video and IND and then I quit I read this book when I was 20 went through a vaget phase and read a whole

bunch of vaget books I have analytics for this channel so I know that a lot of you are

between the ages of 18 and 35 which means that a lot of you are

trying to figure out your purpose what you should do and I can tell you from experience that figuring out what to do

is the hardest part of the adventure but if you don't know your life's

purpose then your life's purpose is to find your life's purpose

Elon Musk says if you're trying to find your purpose read books books present you with options you

might not have known existed I reread this book when I was 40 about 6 years

ago and I was astonished to realize that in the 20 years since first reading it

so much of my fundamental thinking had come from reading vag's books had come

from vag get's ideas for instance practicing an art no matter how well or badly is a way to make your soul

grow For Heaven's Sake and we have Contraptions like computers

that cheat you out of becoming what you can become is the miracle you were born to be be through

the work that you do and maybe he was wrong about the computers but that's how I feel about

computers in 2018 I started making these pieces because I was sick of computers

sick of screens I called Tom Sachs for advice about selling the pieces and he told me just keep making

the movies I wrote a feature film began lining up financing and I began making spirited Man videos continued making them saak gave me a job co-writing a book with him

God bless him Co hit financing for the movie I wrote evaporated I continued writing uh the saxs book and making the

spirited Man videos but I did not publish the videos investigated doing a Kickstarter campaign for the spirited

Man YouTube channel uh during my research into successful Kickstarter campaigns I came

across the kickstarter campaign for a documentary called unstuck in time about

Kurt vaget March 9th 2021 I launched the kick Kickstarter and this YouTube channel and

they're both successful thank God thank you a few weeks ago I was feeling a

little uneasy about some of my recent videos and started to

wonder is this endeavor just narcissistic unstuck in time the Kurt vaget documentary from the

kickstarter out in theaters I hadn't been to the cinema in 2 years

[Music] the documentary was made by a man named Robert wey took him 40 years to make he was friends with vaget originally Mr wey did not want to be in the documentary but to

not put himself in would have been to sacrifice essential themes of the undefined undefined

film the documentary was a masterpiece had Mr Whitey not been in it the documentary

would have suffered and we would have been deprived of a

gift and having experienced Mr wey's gift I made peace

with yes you can be in these videos and make them Universal and I had the resolution to my is this narcissistic undefined undefined

conflict during the middle of making this episode when I was stuck and

[Music] forlorn I got this letter from a guy in Kansas City this guy had to think about what he was going to write

write it down the guy's got two little kids he had to drive to the post office wait in line to buy a stamp put the

stamp on it mail it and just to encourage me and it says here I have enjoyed watching your YouTube channel

you have been a positive influence in my life I want to learn

more and be better each day [Music] it didn't occur to me that I would hand down my influences but yeah that's what my influences have done for me essentially

they've made me want to be a better man each day but now I'm a little sick of me

somehow now I got to begin including my friends in these videos my vaget

Products & Tools Mentioned

  • Sony TRV8 uses — early camera used for filmmaking
  • Mountain Dew mentions — mentioned in context of early filmmaking days

People Referenced

Tom Sachs, Werner Herzog, Wes Anderson, Eleanor Coppola, Les Blank, Kurt Vonnegut, Elon Musk, John Ferguson, Tom Healey, Robert Weide, Ed Ruscha

Films & Media Referenced

  • Van's first internet video from 2000
  • Van's 2003 film made against Apple
  • Wes Anderson film referenced
  • Eleanor Coppola documentary about Apocalypse Now production
  • Les Blank documentary about Werner Herzog's Fitzcarraldo
  • Werner Herzog film referenced
  • HBO 8-episode series
  • Tom Sachs Studio film directed by Van
  • Van's directorial debut feature, premiered at SXSW 2015
  • short film co-written with Tom Sachs, narrated by Werner Herzog, starring Ed Ruscha
  • Robert Weide documentary about Kurt Vonnegut
  • TV show referenced as influence

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