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An October 2022 Friday session. Viewer questions, ongoing project updates, and the usual unscripted back-and-forth with the Patreon community.

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okay good morning I only have one light on so the size a little dark but so be it

um I haven't talked to you in a while I don't think I've done a lot of Dreams

since I went to Montana to drop the Land Cruiser off

there's 35 people watching I think 35 people watching 47 questions sent in

uh weather report today it was incredibly Moody fog

that left a layer of dew on all the vegetation which I think helps suppress the potential for wildfires

uh God willing and it was like the perfect running weather because

the humidity in the air was cool so it was like an extra sweat gland ran into a friend who was driving out of

uh the park when I was running in and he had just fixed his diesel Mercedes glow plugs

which very minor problem um okay so I got a lot of great

questions from y'all like I read through all of them at this point and

there's one that was sent into the there's like the chat I don't know what

it's called the messages on patreon it's kind of like email but patreon's own little

email portal and so Maxime writes in an increasingly

crowded slash noisy space of online creators how do you strike a balance between

drawing attention to your work to excuse me to work you're proud of and letting the work speak for itself how do you get

over the discomfort of self-promotion well I think let's see I'm pretty bad at

self-promotion I should be better at it I think a very very good resource to

um understand self-promotion better is the Colin and Samir podcast and the Colin and Samir

Channel and they are they make content about the Creator economy and they concentrate a great deal on

self-promotion and using all of the various platforms to get your you know to get your identity and your brand and in front of

as many eyes as possible you know my brother Casey neistat's very good at this at promotion

I'm pretty terrible at it but it's very important um yeah I'm writing this book with Tom

sacks and he we we did um oh we did something about

I can't remember it was one of the chapters about it's not the artist mindset but it's

about like oh I think it's called like 16 principles of

becoming a successful artist in spite of your creativity or something like that

um and one of them and this is Toms Tom is also excellent at um self-promotion

well there's two that come to mind and one of them is the principle that half your job is making the work and the

other half of the job is bringing your work to the world so like this moment right now this is me bringing the this

isn't the work this is me bringing the work to the to the world and talking to you guys about it and the other um

the other one of those principles was um right now you have in front of you the

world's greatest promotional technology for free and that's of course all the

internet platforms so um for myself to I mean to stand out I have a lot of friends I've just the time the time I've put into it is like I put in 20 this is year 22.

of me making internet videos and I've just met tons and tons of people

and as a result of having met these people they promote me and then people I admire who watch my work

they promote me you know they have me as a guest on their podcasts and so forth but in the beginning I really think for

the first 10 years maybe it's not quite maybe it's maybe it's until you get your first paid

gig within your um medium and that like if you're a filmmaker that includes a wedding video

you know and okay over two thousand dollars so if you get paid 20 bucks by your mom

to make a wedding invitation that doesn't count but your first like paid gig oh and it's over two thousand dollars

um I think I think then you could start promoting but I really really really think that it's like Bill Burr the stand-up comic

says be undeniable you have to be good you have to be good you don't just get it right it's not even these kids these

phenomena that you see on the internet and they're like you know like some of these guys should be taken out of the

out of the data pool right Mr Beast should be taken out of the data pool he's a genius okay he was born to do

this he doesn't count he's not like the rest of us you know he started when he was very young and he just got it it was just in his

blood and there's a bunch of those kids and they rise up really fast but that's you know that's very very rare I was

fast in that it took me about seven years before I was like and I was with one of the smartest best people at this

in the world you know I was my I was like partners with Casey neistat and even then it took took the both both of

us like seven years before we had like a real paid you know our HBO series

so the question is how do you get over the discomfort of self-promotion one of the

ways is like you can ease into self-promotion when you have sort of like Landmark

projects or projects that are uh unusual um uh uh attention like if you do a uh somebody's art video or if you do a video and they're showing it in a gallery or something you can do a lot of promotion for that gallery show if you do a video and it gets picked up

for some film festival thing you can do a lot of promotion for the festival and for your video specifically

um you know it's very but I think mainly it's be undeniable

and then of course there's all the you know the stuff of like shorts Drive

viewership to your main Channel if you're a YouTuber and shorts have are being pushed by the

YouTube algorithm they're being pushed very aggressively no one's really cracked the shorts um

medium like no one's really made like a standardized shorts video that people are like oh

this is what it this is this is what this is I mean besides like the dancing girls like like Tick-Tock stuff

no one's really cracked it so you know spend three years doing that but who knows maybe shorts is you know maybe

it's just something that goes away like Vine went away I was thinking yesterday about all these things that went away this thing called Chat Roulette went

away um this thing and these were like oh this changes everything this is the next you this is the next NBC this is the

next YouTube Chat Roulette went away there was this thing I remember a couple years ago during the pandemic called Clubhouse gone I mean they're probably

all these things probably still exist but they're just nothing they're not like they didn't live up to the hype so we don't know what's gonna stick around YouTube likely gonna stick around for a

while for another at least decade um uh yeah and then other people will promote you when you're when you've when you've done when you've

connected with some with people like people who are of like a higher exposure people who are I guess you'd use the word more famous than you they will

promote you and then you know you can exploit that so I you know it's very important but

you really really got to get the work good and then you know like Bob Dylan said everybody

will help you discover what you set out to find all right so on to the questions from

the patreon uh post yesterday how did you get your logo patches on your clothes made and did you put them

on um I have since made my own logo and want to add it to some of my clothes there's just these websites you just

search label um don't say patches because patches is a different thing these are these are

called labels uh I I can't remember the the company mine is called like Dutch label company or something like that and you just

click you you know you you scan your drawing turn into a JPEG you upload the jpeg then it like says oh

it's too small it's too big and you resize it and you pick the color you want and they send you a prototype and you know you got to order 50 and then

I just go to a tailor to do the um first three or whatever to see if they do it the way that I want it and

then I mean the first first ones I did by hand but don't do that like unless you're a sewer like I've been a sewer since I was a little kid which is kind

of kind of embarrassing to admit but I've just always sewn and fixed stuff since I

was a little kid because all of our clothes when we were little came from thrift shops um and you know sewing the alligator on

uh you know a fake like a real Lacoste alligator on a fake polo shirt um

yeah I just sewed it and you gotta go around twice because you gotta fake the running Stitch but it's way way faster just to go to the

tailor and probably charge you 10 bucks to sew it on or she'll charge you 10 bucks to sew it on and then you know I live in LA there's a big manufacturing

sector here and there's companies that'll just do it where you can give them hundreds and they charge you have two three dollars a unit or something if you do a hundred or or however many you

do um but that's sort of the process yeah okay how essential is it to make connections

when making art for a living well like I said earlier it's about half the job is uh bringing your art to the world and

connections I mean right now like the connections I'm making are so wonderful because it's usually people reaching out to me having seen my work

and a lot of them are um you know Kindred Spirits and uh

oh it's super it's like part of the reason to do it I mean part of the reason to do it is to make new relationships and meet all these interesting people that you never

normally would have and to meet them on like the best is to meet the best best is to meet uh someone you're a fan of that's a fan

of you on a podcast for the first time where you're like your mandate is to have like a two or three hour conversation

and I don't even know if I'm supposed to talk to this about this because I didn't sign the contract I just went and did it but like a couple weeks ago I went and

uh I had a sit down with Jack Conte he reached out to me and Jack Conte

invented patreon and he's the first he's like patreon patreon account like number one and he makes more he says this

publicly he makes more money um off of his patreon page which is for

his band called pomplemousse he makes more money from that than he does for being CEO of patreon which is a

four billion dollar company last I heard so you know that's a connection I have now he was you know a fan of what I do

and I'm a big fan of what I mean he's a revolutionary he's changed my life and uh probably yours too because here you are

so connections is part of the it's part of what we're in it for it's so great how can I start reading more books I

have so much unfinished literature oh I think the way someone a long time ago and I've heard this from multiple people they say read anything you're

interested in anything it doesn't matter just read it there's no trash there's no like the act of reading is such a great

like input exercise um I you know and start with uh I mean find the subject and then maybe try to

find books that are broken up into short little sections like those Ryan holiday books are really great he wrote a book called The obstacle is the way he wrote

a book called Stillness is key or maybe Stillness is lucky foreign like he's been really great about

getting motivated readers who don't feel like they read enough to read his books because a lot of his books are about

although the main theme is about stoicism but a lot of his books are about getting motivated and about staying disciplined

and um the format of those books is broken up into short little bursts um and then you know just maybe just

keep looking and looking to find a book that really hooks you that you can't put down I've been in a really bad book

deficit for a year a couple years since I Read Moby Dick I think in 2020 2019 something that just bottomed out and I

just I was devouring books I mean I also got very busy with the channel but I was devouring books and then I just I read that book and it was such a slog to get

through it took me like a year and I've been having trouble just dialing in I'd be buying a lot of books and reading the first 100 Pages or so

and just being like I don't care but I'm reading this new book now called the end of the world is just the beginning about the

thesis or the hypothesis of the book is that you know we're 2019 was the peak year of um

globalization and then we're now on a global downturn and it's going to all disintegrate

it's you know uh makes a very good case the guy's name is Peter Zion um and I watched some

old YouTube lectures of his from like a couple years ago and he was so right things came true so I like to listen to those guys but yeah chiefly find

something that you're interested in I was at a friend's motorcycle shop in Austin last weekend and he had a book about just the Classic motorcycle clothing

and it was just like a picture of a beautiful like you know BSA leather jacket from the 50s and then it had a whole you know that kind of stuff's

great to read like coffee table books and then you kind of find something in there that you really that that maybe

dials you and you're like oh flat track what kind of what's a flat track bike you start reading books about flat trackers and then you you know learn about I don't know Evil Knievel or

something um okay uh Jonathan asks love the first five tools video is there a possibility we will see more like that with a focus on your otherwise creative output areas video making scene making Etc definitely

I'm gonna be making that kind of stuff um how do you feel about Casey back in New York City I'm pissed I wish he was

still here we've gotten this cool Groove where we were hanging out with our kids like every Sunday or yes Sunday and I would go to

this uh AAA meeting on the beach in Santa Monica with my son and then we'd take our electric bikes and ride the bike path further north and then go

under the PCH there's like a little tunnel for bikes and then ride up into his neighborhood and go see him and his

his kids my kids cousins and uh I don't know if you have kids maybe you do this and if you don't have

kids this is kind of a nice thing it's like on the weekends like sometimes couples will like okay Saturday's mom's

day and Sunday is Dad's day with the kids and like we had it lined up so case or some people split the day in half am

is Dad PM his mom whatever so we had it lined up so that Casey and I both it was like our day on Sundays and so we would

hang out and go on little crazy fun little things with the kids and it's like with the kids everything gets magnified and then we have these gnarly

conversations in the front while the kids in the back on their you know DVD player screens just like zoned out and

watched you know uh Disney movies so yeah man I wish she was I wish he was still back here it was nice visiting him

on vacation like at the we went saw him at his beach house and on the beach and that was great we'll probably do

that every year but yeah I wish it was I wish it was still here and um I don't know I guess I'll probably have to go to New York more often now travel bag what

bag and what's in it I think I did a video about this and I was more about packing so my bag ugh I don't have a

good travel bag situation the way to go is the four wheel you know you have the graduated how long is your trip and what's your

purpose so I used to be a don't check luggage under any circumstances now I'm basically a checked luggage person

um this last trip to Austin I didn't check luggage but I didn't have a big mission or anything so it was easy just

for me I have this camera bag that kill Spencer makes that I designed I don't think they make

it anymore because it was way too labor intensive it like mucked up their shop and they had to charge 1100 bucks for it and even then I doubt there was much

profit in that so um although I don't know maybe they'll bring it back I don't know it's great kill Spencer they make great bags uh I

think the way to go is that remoa or knockoff remoa um four-wheel like drag bag that has

like the four wheels on it and has a hard case and Bert Kreischer says that the Costco version is great because people don't Target it and the remote

one might be targeted on the you know on the the baggage carousel but I doubt that's true um

which I'm probably gonna I might get one of those this week because I'm going away on a big trip uh and what's in it look it depends on the

yeah I put that I packed I did that in a video like packing for pros or something like that um pack an extension cord all your

chargers because what are what's some of your favorite albums of all time oh God

you know I don't know those rolling stone top 500 are all pretty great I love the Bob Dylan ones my favorite Bob Dylan one is probably desire I love that

one the one that came out the year I was born was blood on the tracks so I have a little I have kind of a a

uh affinity for blood on the tracks because it's it's like the breakup album um

who else what are some what are those you know as soon as I'm done with this I'll think of 20 and I don't want to send the say the wrong ones it's like oh moon

uh um OG by iced tea is like he invented that term OG Original Gangster that's him that's iced tea he gets it he wins it uh that's a great album

um God those NWA albums were great uh chronic by uh by Dr Dre Chronic 2000 the

the first three Eminem albums uh I mean the obvious ones like the Beatles and all that uh Exile on Main Street all

the obvious ones um the Beastie Boys ones I love especially you know it's so weird I watched The

Beastie Boys Like documentary and they sort of threw Paul's Boutique under the bus because it didn't do as well as the other ones but to me I'm like that's

your Masterpiece that is like the that is the that is the quintessential like sampling hip-hop album uh that's a great

magnificent check your head is great um what are the country albums that are great I don't know if I consume country music by the album

I think I came to country music so late that uh yeah

I don't know but albums are awesome and I love the album experience especially the old record album experience when you put headphones on plug them in just play

one side flip it over and play the other and that's all you you know that was your sole Focus um what are your thoughts on the Tom

sacks GPS shoes after wearing we're testing them they're like the best Nikes ever I think

they're fantastic they're half boot half sneaker they're so great and the soles are great and uh

yeah I just got the new ones I don't know how rare these things are but I just like are the yellow ones out like

can you buy those or are they not been released because I just got them I haven't even like put them on yet but I just got them in the mail very very

very spoiled and that way I get all of them I had the Mars yard ones which I never even picked up from his Studio they're like probably floating around

somewhere I think maybe they got stolen the Mars yards 2 which I still have upstairs and now I've got the two GPS's

why is it so much tougher to make friends when older I think it's because older people have more responsibilities and less free time

and they also have their friends are locked in they're all their friends they've had for a long time two

uh that's probably why I'm going for a lead technician position

at my job any advice for going after an ambitious position at a young age um any advice for going after an

ambitious position yeah I'd say just go for it and then you know you gotta present all the advantages like you're

not as expensive as the uh you're probably not as expensive as the older person you probably have more

time to dedicate to the job than an older person you have more potential than an over than an older person

um I think of the I think of these Formula One teams and you see them hiring these like you know three or four time

world champions but that are in their mid to late 30s and these companies they these teams hire these people like

you know uh Aston Martin hires they did it twice I think they hired Kimi raikkonen and then I think they oh no maybe no no

I'm sorry I have that wrong they hired Sebastian Vettel and yeah Sebastian Vettel is one of the all-time greats but he was at the end it's like can't you

see that but I think they have you have to have an old like a veteran driver and a very young driver like Mercedes has it kind

of locked they have Hamilton and then they have uh George Russell

and then I feel like Red Bull is the ultimate because they're number two driver is checko and he's the more experienced guy

and then Max who's the you know Prodigy Wizard World Champion who's probably going to win the World Championship you know maybe not this race but probably

the next race um he's their you know he's the young he just had his 25th birthday but my point

is you have advantages over older people it's more beneficial to hire a younger person but you got to bring your A game

um do you think there's a correlation between riding your bike and making films you're proud of yes yes I think riding your bike's just good

for your brain um any tips for keeping Focus while editing my latent add kicks into high

gear when I dive into a project and everything grinds to a glacial pace now everything grinds to a glacial pace

I don't know what that means because editing is a glacially slow process

so it's if you're talking about editing you said everything grinds to a glacial pace but oh and this is from Bob

uh if you're talking about everything when you're editing I mean that means you're doing it right that's editing editing is unbelievably slow

um but add should help you with editing like part of

I mean if you're if you really do unless you're just being funny but if you really do have ADD I don't know that you you should have

trouble pulling yourself away from the editing Suite if it's um if you're interested in it it should

be I mean I think I mean that's my experience and that's the experience I know of others

that like that's the the last D in add is kind of [ __ ] because it's really an enhancement it's just you're adapted

to like a hunting environment and not an agrarian environment you're like you're kind of paying attention to everything I think it's super helpful

for motorcycle riding if you have that attention deficit enhancement um and also for editing because there's so

many variables going on at all all at once and sort of the Ade person is able to keep all of the

stuff in the air and manipulate all of the different uh you know timelines

and keep it all straight if I do this these eight things are gonna happen it's like one of the powerful

tips for keeping focused I have none that's something I never struggled with editing focus is just the opposite

problems for me is how do I dedicate more time so that I can edit for longer periods of time because I could just

edit just totally I it gets to the point where I feel like a little bit mentally

dis mentally impaired because you start thinking in that weird

editing mind and it's hard to be in real time so uh yeah I don't know maybe just get better at it maybe just get if you're in the beginning and you're just learning

all the T tools and it's just slogging because you don't like how do you separate the audio again and you're just

learning all the different techniques once you have it mastered then you can fly and it just takes over your brain

thoughts on movie Black Cat white cat from a mirror Costa Rica it's one of my all-time favorite European movies alas I

have not seen it um can you elaborate more about Yankee Thrift and what that means how does that relate to the sex nice that aesthetic

I think Yankee Thrift is just making things last as long as humanly possible um and then to I kind of do it to a

fault sometimes sometimes I feel like I'm wasting time like you shouldn't just throw this away and buy a new one you shouldn't be doing this but then it also makes you really kind

of clever and you learn how to preserve and keep things going I guess and how does that relate to the nice debt

sex nice that aesthetic I mean it's basically Sax's entire thing is that is like he

calls it brickellage just just maximizing resources and um it's just a it's like

and for me it's kind of um what's it called a uh byproduct of

uh the the aesthetic is a byproduct of my process of how I fix stuff I just

have a different I have like a language that was basically taught to me by sax and that I've like tinkered with here and there

and like I know like I S I hang a shelf a certain way I buy a certain kind of uh

uh plywood I buy certain kind of um drying oil to finish the wood with I

use certain lights I use certain you know markers and pencils and so forth and then that's just my language and

then a very incrementally um build up my skills like I need to

learn how to weld I think and I probably will learn that soon but I just I need a bigger space I don't want all that gear I hate gear I hate it so much I hate it

I hate putting it all away I hate ugh I hate it I like space I wish you know I

would do the Steve Jobs thing where I would just have a bed on the floor although I love tables I love tables and and like desks and so forth but

I love space above all I mean try a while about here and so Yenni asks uh

where or how do you find inspiration for a new project what do you think of when setting yourself apart in this saturated

YouTube world people always say think about who you really are do what you love and have fun but one

that's not easy for all of us and two being realistic this is work as you mentioned in one of

your previous videos not fun okay inspiration for a new project bills

bills inspire me to do another project UH responsibilities inspire me to do another project uh commitments that I

made yes I'll make a video about such and such for your such and such company um

and then you guys sending in ideas that's very helpful hey how about this like these questions help me come up

with stuff or they at least get into the videos and trying to maybe answer these videos or make me think about things that I don't

that I might not think too deeply about or things that don't occur to me are

like special thoughts or I it doesn't occur to me that certain knowledge I have is at all Extraordinary or unusual

um just because I'm so I don't know I'm pretty self-centered and I'm just and a lot of my friends and you know a big

part of my world that I associate with are very are creative people and people who make

things so there's a certain you know just a certain unspoken uh language of

you know how to go about things that it doesn't occur to me is special um

you know it's time it really is time this thing uh setting yourself apart in the saturated YouTube world like it's

time it really is I'm sorry there's no work around you know there's no work around for work it's just work

and uh it's just time and think about who you really are that takes 40 years

I'm sorry you're gonna be 40 before you you know who you really are maybe 35.

you know maybe for women it's younger they because women are because of their bodies are on a different schedule than

men uh and they like I think women reach puberty before men do and then that whole transition when women have get

pregnant and have children I think that really puts I think it makes focuses

I've seen it Focus women and really prioritize say okay this and this and this is BS this and this and

this is what I'm concentrating on this is what's important so far um and yeah there are the thing about do

what you love and have fun this is not 1994. this is 2022. those days are over

it's not yeah okay do do do what you love and have fun do you have unlimited money

do you have do you have to never worry about money ever then go ahead do what you love to do and have fun but the rest

of us everything is unbelievably expensive right now it's like it's um it's it's I I don't know how I don't

know how people stay alive with how expensive everything is um yeah you know there should I guess there

should be parts of it that you love that should be and that's I don't know for me it's the flow for me there's like a like a very

exciting part where you have like the plan is basically dissolving into the action

like oh I can do because it you know one of the things I've learned is with

discipline is like you're not I can't go exactly like I can't go and like what's a good

example what am I working on right now okay so I'm doing this like Halloween

special video and there was all these builds and all these shoots that I have to do for this video

but I couldn't and I what I want to do is do the builds I want to make all the little things like I had to make a

skeleton key with like real skeletons and I had to do this I'd like solder with a blowtorch to solder the skeletons

to the old-fashioned key and all of this and I just wanted to do that you know I just wanted to right away have the idea

go and do that but would like discipline I knew I had to have a build

schedule and a shooting schedule established before I did before I built

anything or shot anything or else I would just make a total mess and chaos and just con waste tremendous amounts of

time and being on that Weekly YouTube I mean I'm gonna miss tomorrow but being on that Weekly YouTube

publishing schedule it forces like discipline and efficiency

so you know I don't know but time it's just setting yourself apart in the saturated

YouTube world I mean I've heard about there's a new I listened to this podcast that these

like four it's called the all-in podcast but there are several podcasts called the all in podcast and this is it's for like

finally very successful Financial guys and um uh one of one of them is named David sacks one of them is named chamat something and then I can't remember the

other two guys's name um but one of them was talking this morning about

there's this you know we we know what dolly is it's like uh AI where you type in a description and then the AI I think

it's through Google the AI does a painting or a drawing or a photograph based on what you described so van Von

neistat portrait in the style of uh uh uh uh money or Monet or something and then

it would uh you know the AI would just do iteration after iteration after

iteration until it like I don't really know exactly how it works until I pick one that I like or it would give me five

that it came up with and then there's new AI that is that is that but for video I've heard

about I heard about this this morning where you just describe like the example the guy used was a teddy bear painting a

picture of a teddy bear and then it'll make you like its idea of a video of that and like you know that might be something to

that's Cutting Edge that might be something to like start with you know

um I'm trying to think of like you know if you want to stand say stand out from you know

how do you stand out setting your self apart from this saturated YouTube world it's really you have to do unusual things or Cutting

Edge things in a way that people don't do novelty young people love novelty older people

as you get older novelty becomes less of a priority and skill and pattern recognition becomes more you become more

uh better Adept better more Adept at pattern recognition so I'm not really I don't really care about

novel stuff really unless it's revolutionary but um I'm old and I don't drive this you

know my generation doesn't drive this uh economy so so yeah I don't know try novel things

um what are your thoughts on electric motorcycle I've never been able this is from Spencer I've never been able to ride a normal motorcycle but an electric version seems approachable would you

ever consider owning one uh I definitely would consider owning one I think they're great uh I love that

they're quiet but that also makes them a little dangerous because you're sort of invisible on a motorcycle but I also feel you should when you ride a motorcycle you should ride with the

assumption that you're invisible and never ride with the necessity that the drivers

around you see you just kind of hard to articulate but you know you can't

assume that the person sees you even if you make eye contact with them you have to just sort of

be invisible so I think you know there's this thing that people say loud pipes save lives horseshit it's not true

um so yeah electric bikes yeah I think that's probably where it's gonna head

uh I just went to and and uh Austin I just went to Revival Cycles

I went to their like custom shop and they had a bunch of these bikes called cake and they're by the Swedish company they're like among the nicest bikes yeah

they're incredible and they're definitely would very soon going to out strip all of the performance uh

metrics of of gas powered bikes and I think they're probably lighter and then you know there's the range issue

and that's what all the electric stuff has going against it but yeah I think they're fine I mean I like the engines

because I'm old and I you know but it's so complicated so many damn little things that can go wrong and like basically with the electric bikes it's

like the battery can die or the computer can get screwy and then all the other stuff is kind of

forever those little Motors and stuff they'll last forever um okay

and I would consider anyone yes who would play you in a movie about your life and career oh my God

oh there's no like kind of like like Woody Harrelson if he was younger but

that's what people say I look like uh but I can't think of any young actors that I like that kind of

look like the bald with the beard I don't know and they'd be like what era they'd be like mid I don't know that's a good question I don't know

hey van uh I found music to be like fuel I like different genres with different tasks

or she's shift my mood what kind of music do you jam to oh this is from maker guy makery guy kind of music djm2 what part of

music what part does music play in your day in general you know I used to be a music guy but

I'm not really anymore I don't really uh I don't really listen I know it sounds

so so so very very weird and strange but I just I listen to music maybe once a week and I just have like that

there's that Pandora where you just put in a band that you like and then it plays music that's sort

of like that music I guess and uh you know I like the hip-hop guys the

like like uh I don't know Nirvana kind of music or

Radiohead kind of music and then like American country music but I'm not it doesn't it doesn't really

drive me anymore but that that's probably just this phase that I'm in which is just this hyper focused

phase that's a disappointing answer uh I listen hey this is from Hayden Hayden list summer that you have had a

few serious long-term relationships have you ever been through a bad breakup any tips from experience that helped you get through

through this yeah man leaning on your friends your guy friends uh

I guess it doesn't matter guy friends girlfriends it doesn't really matter I guess but for me my experience was like

you know there was a when we all worked at Saks there was a bunch of us and so

at every any given time there was a bunch of us going through breakups not all at once but like you know there was breakups and one of the things we would

do is like like after work we'd hang out and we'd just play that um

it's been several hours and 15 days that we would play the nothing compares to

you the Sinead O'Connor version of that and uh oh and there's another one what's the other one I just heard

the other one and we would just play it like kind of on a loop and it was like our way of telling the other guy

you know our buddy who'd like broken up that like man it's gonna be okay it's gonna be all right it's gonna be okay

um yeah just kind of try to stay social with all your friends and stuff they'll take care of you

and uh they'll also do this solid favor of telling you why she was garbage

which is super helpful uh God I wish I could think of that other song I was somewhere and I heard it and I just wanted to tell someone I was like this

is this song and I was just like with my boy like he's gonna understand that what the hell song was it

I don't remember I'll think of it but yeah I've been I've been I mean I have to just just I

would just suppress the feelings and work really hard when I broke up dial in and before I quit drinking I

would just drink a lot and uh kind of hell you know hang out with my buddies

and be crazy and then uh a bad one yeah I don't know man it's just heartbreak it's I think I've repressed all those memories

Kimberly Isaac says uh Aloha van still curious about the artwork in the background of your live streams that's uh

this book that I like traced all the drawings oh I traced all the drawings from this book

and typed out all the poems and then put them on that piece of paper it's 24 feet high 24 feet 9 inches high

nine feet wide with six inch margins and uh that's that particular and then I did a video about like I spent 1500

hours typing out other people's work which is like the process of how I did it um that's on the channel on the YouTube

channel hey man what's your thoughts on silent quitting do you think it's burnout under appreciation or pro-work Etc

now what is sound you know what I'm gonna look this up because I heard somebody talking about this on a podcast I'm gonna google this

see what this means I want quitting meaning Wikipedia quitting quiet quitting quiet quitting or silent

silent quitting well this is quiet quitting quiet quitting is an application of work to rule in which employees work within

defined work hours and engage solely in activities within those hours let me read another one quiet quitting

is an application of work to rule in which employees work within defined hours and engage solely in activities within those hours

despite the name the philosophy of quiet quitting is not connected to quitting a job outright but rather doing precisely

what the job requires I mean it sounds like you know I I get it it sounds like a coping mechanism for

people who have jobs that they hate and I think if you have a job you hate you should quit and do something that you don't hate you don't have to necessarily

like it but uh I think it's poor work ethic yes and I kind of feel like everyone should have employees so that they understand how

hard it is to have employees and the real like there's a lot lot most people are

employees most people are employees and they do not most people do not realize how much hell

you are insulated from by virtue of being an employee um and I think

more people should be in charge more often so that they have more empathy it's extremely hard to be the boss there's that awesome song paid the cost

to be the boss it's it's a very difficult job to be the boss because no matter what no matter what you could pay

your employee a hundred million dollars to sharpen a pencil once a year

and they would still have a problem there would still be problems it wouldn't be appreciated in something I don't know I was that way when I was an

employee and then there's more employees than there are bosses so employees get uh

this sort of um idea that in the workplace that workplace is a democracy as well

I don't know and then and yet you also have on the other hand you have like unions and Union people tend to be

really good like they're very expensive as they should be uh but the work like you hire a union

carpenter to build you a set of stairs as opposed to a guy who has like 30 years carpentry experience

I mean it's gonna be night and day it's gonna cost you but it's gonna be generally speaking like Union carpentry

is above and beyond um so but this thing about I can I can just

see is these passive aggressive little cowards being like well I'm just gonna do exactly what he says and then if he

didn't say it and it's like okay well we're about to experience we just had a million unemployed in this last employment

return report that came out you know meta for the first time in its history is going to be I think laying

people off I think the I think also I'm not sure about Apple but I think Netflix is like there's going to be more people in the workplace and you this kind of

attitude which you could get away with when there weren't enough workers you're not going to be able to get away with in the this whatever this next era these

things last so quickly they go by so quickly they're always less than a year so I don't know I think uh

yeah I don't know it sounds like bad it sounds like bad uh work ethic to me you know you're always working for

yourself even when you're working for someone else you're working for yourself you're like learning how to work you got to learn stuff there's got to be something you're

contributing to the world so you know you're always working for yourself some uh bo asked me if I did I watch the

new Top Gun I got through like maybe 45 minutes of it but I stupidly brought my son to see it because I thought it'd be

all fighter jets and he'd think it was great we watched it IMAX it was awesome and it was like the best remake format

like they did all the things you always want to see in their remake like use the original music use the original score put the Beats where they're supposed to

be don't make it derivative just make it a total like rip-off like just make it be like almost the same thing and they knew their strengths I mean they had 40

years or whatever to 36 years to to get it right so I thought it was I

was really into it but you know I can't make my kid suffer through all of that like

Love Story stuff but it was pretty great Ethan SC did you have did do you have any movie star Heroes like Steve McQueen

Marlon Brando et cetera that had an influence on your youth do you take any inspiration from said here I really liked uh Robert Redford because I think

my mom was like obsessed with Robert Redford I thought he was super cool and he was like a skier and he started the

uh Sundance Film Festival and he was in these cool movies like downhill racer

and The Way We Were and um Out of Africa and I always wanted to be a guy like that out of Africa guy

I kind of am I kind of feel like that guy what was his name he was so cool he was like a pilot but it was like right

when those planes became came out right when those like biplanes that were made out of canvas and wood came out and he

lived in Africa and he flew around and uh it was just super cool

and he was super capable it was very romantic and yeah so but that was more the character but Robert Redford played him

how do you decide when to make something you want need rather than buying it as a maker I

normally struggle with the thought I can just make that is this something you struggle with and if so how do you deal with it all right so it usually comes

down to it depends on the urgency of what I need at the moment and if like

if it's a real time thing like say I need it in two hours oh Jesus I don't know this is a good

question some things just don't kind of exist like that little platform that I made for my where is it I don't want to go get it

because I have to unplug my headphones but it was in the last episode I posted this little like plywood platform that

you could raise and lower the this camera on or like this thing like this doesn't exist you can't find this

so that I make um it's like basically how how hard is it to make versus how available is it

versus how expensive and then it's almost always cheaper I mean just based on this position I'm in

now it's almost always cheaper just to buy it because my time is very valuable like in terms of money now but

um yeah it's like this balance between how hard is it to get how expensive is it and how hard is it

to make first versus how hard is it to make and usually they're a little bit harder to make than you anticipate because there's little tiny things

this one went particularly smoothly like I was so astonished by this this

little fold down this is for the GoPro Mount system and the magnets are built into the they're built into these and

then it was like but to get it off of the uh of the GoPro 8 to remove it I needed a special

Precision Torx ordered it from Amazon like 10 bucks for 20 of them or whatever but it didn't quite fit so I had to file

it down I had to like use a dremelon sort of grind it down to fit perfectly to remove the little mini Torx screws

but then I got that thing and that thing doesn't exist and I really love it um so yeah it's just a balanced like speed

versus cost versus yeah speed and cost I guess yeah yeah

because and then there's sometimes there's Real Time stuff is like even Amazon like it's gonna take them till tomorrow and I

need it in an hour and can I make it in two hours then you then you just kind of make it and then there's stuff that doesn't exist or it's not quite right

but I definitely want to buy as much stuff that I need and I want to need as

few things as possible okay this is a tricky one so this is from Mia I've been a long time fan of

yours and I've noticed and have noticed you referenced Louis CK in a couple of your videos I was wondering why you're still a fan of his given the sexual

harassment he committed I see you as a role model on my own creative journey and as a female supporter of yours it's a little disappointing and confusing to

see thank you for your time and have a good weekend well

he apologized and in his particular case uh uh he was the harassment was outside of the actual work environment it was after

hours and he also received consent from the people so

in my mind though it's inappropriate and disgusting if I don't see it as evil or

um I don't see it as abusive so you know what he said was

that the reason it was I can't remember the actual adjective he used

but what made it like uh inappropriate maybe was that these people looked up to him

and that's you know that is that makes it more serious but at the same time these

people are adults and they can say no and they can like leave the room and you know but just and that's that very

specific that's that very specific you know case and a lot of these other people

they got what they deserved and uh they deserve to lose their career but I don't think so with Louis CK I I don't think

so I don't think his offense was um serious enough to for him to be stripped

and uh but I can understand um the disappointment and the confusion Paula asks what is the time so far that

you have been happiest probably that year it's like two years probably like two thousand six or seven to two thousand

nine or ten probably that year those years it was like the culmination of my of my uh

collaboration with Casey and then we were brothers and we went on this really maybe even earlier than that maybe 2004.

when people like started flying us to France to do to do work and putting us up at the cost hotel or the

I guess it's called the hotel cost or the hotel or more I don't know if that's still around but I loved that place it

was so weird and cool that was really great you know didn't have any kids and

um just like getting a good like physical shape and yeah that was a really good time that was like the happiest I'd say that I

keep going back to that too in a lot of my work in these nostalgic things but now I'm probably the most fulfilled

right now in like most solid and most mentally healthy right now

Stephen asks any tips for how to be successful in New York City I've decided I'm going to be moving there at the beginning of next year in hopes of

finding my creative path yeah you've got to stay really focused in New York you got to stay super focused

and you can focus on like two or three things and one of those things is paying your rent because it's super expensive I

just assume people are like kind of in the same financial situation I was in when I moved to New York which was like I was a waiter and I had to kind of go

from there um New York yeah you got to be focused and uh finding your creative path that's your focus focus on that go heavy heavy

heavy into time and focus and energy into it and your own I think you're going to learn

the mo your failures are just your education like failures are just it's just another P it's just it's

something you've learned it's it's like a learning degree it's like you when you fail at something it's like you get the

knowledge that's what you get for it and however if depending on your commitment to the

thing that you've failed upon or the the your commitment to what you've failed upon you failed

executing is directly proportional to the quality of the education you'll get from the

failure in other words if you went all in and were super committed

and failed at you know getting a million whatever YouTube subscribers

that commitment will off you will get the mo you will learn the most from that failure you

will learn more from that failure than you would have if you were just like well you know I tried it out for a few weeks and I just didn't like it you know

no you're like man everything everything I broke up with my girlfriend I sold my car I you know everything I put to do

this thing and it didn't work and like then you really have to come to you have to think you have to like

you have to really really get to know yourself you really get to know like okay man all right all right what's the

truth here you were just hit with some real reality um and then New York now I don't know I

don't know New York now I just know New York when I was there and I was there like maybe the best time to be there in the

last you know since 1978. it was like one of the best times to be in New York because

I got there during the first of all I was super super safe it was like Giuliani it was the safest city in America it was like Giuliani

Administration then the then the Bloomberg Administration there was lots and lots of money there

was first there was the the.com boom and then it crashed I moved there in 98 so it was like the peak of the

boom and then in the 2000 or so it kind of crashed and then there was all this like there's just lots of money and opportunity and the internet thing was

new you know putting stuff on the internet was new and digital video was new so for my time it was a great place to be right now I don't know I don't

know I don't know it's very I'm I'm unfamiliar with how important it is to be

geographically specific um okay when's the last time you took a

Gypsy Cab oh my gosh I don't remember last time I took a Gypsy Cab uh

I don't know 2016 or something I don't really know if you were to make a movie what would your next steps be assuming

the script is ready what do I do next the script is ready

well then you gotta get money and then you gotta get actors that's something I think

if you got a script is it you have a script that's ready next moves money and actors

you got to get money and you gotta get actors and sometimes getting an actor gets you money

um that's what a script is a script is a business model basically you're you're writing something down on a piece of

paper and you're saying give me three million dollars in an environment where movies they don't make any money anymore

really I don't think I mean even those the movies that like Netflix buys they're not they

glowball you because they know I mean there's certain people who get the deals that pay a lot of money but

you know people don't do theatrical anymore I am in my early 40s now what are your thoughts on the midlife crisis

is Art the antidote Adventure question mark or do we just buckle up and take the ride this is from Nathaniel

midlife crisis I feel like midlife crisis just never ends like

uh you know the the thing about being in your 40s That You Don't See coming is

that you are at a place where you know like kind of for the first time that there are windows that are now shut and

they are never going to open you're not going to be a professional athlete you know you're not going to be in the

military you're too old um you know if you're a woman you cross a

certain threshold and you're not going to have children of your you know you're not going to have biological children of your own

um uh also you learn a lot about the reality because we you know America is the I think what makes one of the qualities of American Americans is we can live we can live

deeply saturated in fantasy and it's such an incredibly rich and

um really source-filled civilization that you can just get by you can you'll be fine the consequences are

minimal but then they increase as you get older and so I don't know art is not the antidote I mean consuming art is a

treatment I think I think music and you know movies that tear your guts out and uh

what books I think is a treatment for a midlife crisis because there's so much truth in the good stuff there's so much truth and

then of course Adventure is uh Adventure is kind of a series of crises

of your own choosing in a certain way and it's just maybe it strengthens you

if you see it all the way through um so yeah maybe that is I don't know I think I'm out of I don't think I'm in a

midlife crisis anymore uh but yeah yeah buckle up and take the

ride but you gotta drive you're gonna buckle up and drive you know you know but you're also you know when you're driving a car you're also riding in it

um how would you recognize you're done with a medium I need to move on to a new one or you're

just at a key point and need to get through this in order to grow with that Medium further this is what I would say

okay so what I'm trying to think okay this is what it is ready

you because I I went through this you achieve success within the medium that you that came maybe a little bit more

quickly than you anticipated it would come and in that success You Now understand

that okay I have to invest my life even more into this medium

to continue to grow within this medium and does that sound like a good idea

is that something I'm interested in is that or you you know you get to this place in

the in your medium and it's it's a place of success you make the

decision in a place of success someone is offering you more money to do your medium

and you don't and and it's like should I keep doing this it's gonna be more money should I keep

doing it or I have this other opportunity and I'm curious about that and so my example is

I went to college and moved to New York because I wanted to be a writer like Hunter Thompson and I

you know I just knew that the first step would be be paid to write anything just be a paid writer pay your bills with

writing words down you know however you do that and so I got through a friend I got an internship at Scholastic

publishing and they at the time they had just published the like second they published the Harry Potter books they just published a second Harry Potter

book but they also had a suite of um classroom magazines like little 16

page magazines that you get in fourth grade fifth grade seventh grade 10th grade um they come out you know once a month

or something and it's a subscription service by the school and so the magazine I got an internship with was called super science and it was for

fourth to sixth graders and I started out as an intern and then I became like three days a week and then

I did five days a week as an intern and then I was I was but these were paid internships so I could afford to do it and they started me out at like whatever

10 12 an hour I don't remember and then I worked my way up to 16 an hour and I could kind of afford my rent and

um you know I was published in a magazine I was writing every day um and you know I was working with an

editor working with people uh you know doing layout uh I guess graphic designers and I was working in that

wonderful Scholastic building in SoHo and the truth I faced was that I don't

like this I don't like calling all of these scientists all over the country in different time zones and all over the

world and getting quotes and then having to fact check the quotes and then writing and then the editing and the

editing and the editing and the editing and submitting it to the editor and this and move this and this I just I don't like the I don't like sitting here and

writing and that's all I'm doing I don't like this like I and it's like a and it was a real like oh you just did all the college you

just read all the books you moved to New York City and it was like and I think the reason I started to understand that I didn't like

this was that I had the video camera and I was on the weekends all my time was just making these weird videos and

editing and that's what I was doing and there was no it didn't exist it wasn't there was no professional video

there was no professional digital video editor short film maker thing that just didn't exist it would be like now being

like Oh you're a professional Dolly painter like it doesn't it's not a job it's like it didn't exist so there was

no me like taking this video camera and going and being getting a you know there was oh

call production companies and try to get a job working on a movie set or

something or or on a ad set and I did do that like a friend of my dad's or my friend of my dad's friends or something did a you know had a production company

or something something that I had like one conversation I was like [ __ ] that I don't want to do that either

and so I was at Scholastic and my editor was like okay you've been as you've been being paid by the hour for two years now

and legally we have to offer you a position in the position we can offer you is the associate editor job it'll be

like whatever 50 more money um benefits retirement health care but

you can't cut my throat and leave after six months you got it this is like a long-term thing you're gonna have to you're gonna have to stay for years and this is going to be like in Earnest your

career and I was at that decision point and I had like um you know my friend Joe was like ah

you know yeah I see all the gadgets you make and you know my friend Tom you got to meet my friend Tom and I had met his friend Tom his friend Tom sacks and ah

Tom's you know he's hiring a bunch of people they're building this big project for the Guggenheim and like he just needs people to like you know make make

models which I had no experience in and I got that job and now I'm choosing a

different medium and the medium I'm choosing is like this it's like my job would be cutting uh window frames

out of quarter inch or eighth inch foam core like thousands of them and

I'd have to take I was getting paid 16 an hour and I would have to take a pay cut and

make ten dollars an hour and that sixteen dollars an hour in Manhattan is you're on the you're on the uh margins

man you're you're being a lot of your career is being Thrifty you know a lot of your like life is figuring out all the little and there's ways to do it in

New York little like hacks where you can live very very very very very very cheaply but the rent is kind of non-negotiable

so I had to make this decision I gotta go from 10 whatever 10 times 40 400 a week

versus 40 times 16 which is 46 46 is for it's like 6 40 I think 620 a week and I just did it and it was like it's

that like Jack and the Beanstalk thing where you're just like [ __ ] I'm just gonna get the magic beans and so that's when you make the decision

you make the decision between two successful uh Endeavors like after you you know you

reach this you've reached this thing with within your medium and now you're going for this thing and to me I always

talk about money because within the arts for some pretentious reason they always leave money out of it which is to me is

very dishonest and very um foolish and money is just a very very straightforward metric

of the I guess quality or importance or viability of the work that you're doing

so it's hard to be I you know it's hard to say well I made

the best you know I made the best plaster of Paris sculpture we've ever made no I don't want to do it anymore

it's like well okay but I you know I can't help you with that I

think money is just a more rational way you need to really like if you're a Super Hyper creative person it's like it's important to develop the

left side of your brain too uh and be very rational and so forth stoic

um and then certain if you're you're not going to be able to quit that's certain you know when you when you click into

your thing and it's real deep like I've tried to quit video I just can't I've tried to quit Motion Picture This whatever you call this I can't I

just it's I can't it's too late um William asks looking to get some leather work boots soon what which do

you recommend and where so I wear these like Swiss Army not Victorinox but like

in Switzerland they have an army it's called The Swiss Army uh like Army Surplus boots from

uh the I think this the catalogs that they're from like the 70s or the 80s and I bought like four or five pairs of them

and uh I've just been wearing them since 2006. uh I guess it's 16 years I've had them resold a bunch of times what I think these ones I think the the

I think they're I think they're about irreparable now uh that's what I wear and then I recommend

um if you go to the Revival motorcycles website they have boots and there's this company I cannot remember the name of it

I'm so sorry they have they have like there's two companies that have boots I think on their website and one company has like two pairs of

boots on their website and one company has like seven or eight pairs of boots on their website the company that has eight pairs of boots on their web I mean

I could just go and look right now I really like those boots I think those are excellent boots and they're very well made and they're American made and they look like they'll last your entire

life and all the souls are souls that um cobblers have in their shops so you can replace them with like the Vibram

souls or whatever can you do a shop workbench tour I mean there's not really much to show

as a standalone thing uh I mean I don't know I guess but

maybe for the next one I build it'll be it'll be uh more to show have you ever regretted listening to

someone's advice instead of following your own instincts or principles well I regret listening to the advice that um do what you love and the money will be

automatic that's just Preposterous and there are some people who are so great at things they don't realize that they have a natural Edge

that they have like I say something uh I have some quotation here

maybe I retired it I might have retired it was like something like it's air it's arrogant

to say anyone can uh no to to not acknowledge your natural

gifts is a form of arrogance or to not acknowledge your natural gifts in the face of success as a form of arrogance

no not everyone can do it and um you know some people

I think somebody whoever said that to me was just very naturally gifted at making money or it came very naturally to them

but I shouldn't follow my own instincts or principles about making money either because my instincts and principles about making money for the most part are

very bad because there's a tremendous difference between

the perceived your perceived quality of work and the the market value of the work and so you sort of owe it to your

work to sustain to have a sustainable life in which you can continue to make the work

I mean that's what patreon's about and conti and I one of the things we talked about was quantity versus quality

and both of us choose quantity because eventually you're going to make a quality thing if you're making dozens of whatever you're making

and choose quantity and because quantity is discipline and efficiency and you move on and you move on and you refine

and you refine and maybe this one's going to be great maybe this one it's going to be great and then you know you develop a certain ethic and you never

cut corners and you have a certain thing and I don't do this until I do this and man you know you just develop I don't

know I'm still I'm still I'm still a work in progress what do you do with all the Nostalgia that you now collect not just yours but

your families as well my stuff Gavin asked this I have a little box for flat stuff that

says uh I think it says art and from episodes or something and it's all the like flat like drawings and

stuff that goes in there and then um uh I guess they call it ephemera like little stuff I have a Big Hearted case out there with like all of my New York

things in it that I don't have Wall space enough to hang it and I eventually hopefully you know God willing I'll get

a bigger studio somewhere and I'll have the wall space to put it up but yeah it's a real problem I don't it's a real problem

you need a just giant space to hang all this stuff Joe asks all right so I'm gonna go like five more minutes Joe asks uh was just

re-watching your video on the struggle of living in NYC I'm an LA native who hasn't yet visited NY New York

how would you compare the character of LA to New York in the video you talk about La as your reward for enduring New

York now there's a difference between visiting and living in there's a tremendous difference

so visiting New York is nothing like living there it is absolutely nothing like living there at all it's too completely different places

because if you live in New York you are likely on the same schedule as the New York Workforce and if you're visiting New York you are likely visiting New York on the

weekends or during vacation like holidays when there are I don't know 6

million five million fewer people in New York than there are during the work week and that work week grind that like

everyone is furious everyone has a 140 IQ everyone is late and in a rush and their life depends on whatever their agenda is and that after you know when you're in your 20s

absolutely the place for you but when you're in your 40s it just gets old and especially if you're in your 40s and you haven't made a lot of money so

you can get a beautiful apartment that insulates you from that and beautiful travel that insulates you from that you can just be in New York at the wonderful

times like in the spring in the fall and some of the summer it grinds grinds grinds on you but to

visit New York all of these little conveniences that you don't get when you're living there

are there you know so so and so happens to be in town oh my gosh Billy's visiting too let's all go to the thing and then they all happen to have time

for you and you're in town and like oh my gosh we found a parking spot right in front of blah blah blah and like I couldn't believe it I thought it was going to be there today it was it was

fifty dollars cheaper and they had a room at the thing that [ __ ] goes away like the moment you sign your lease that that stuff is just gone and I remember

this last time visiting New York I hadn't been there in three years and the word on the street was like New York had fallen apart because of uh covet so

there was more crimes you know there was like smashing grabs and there were like gangs of kids on dirt bikes racing up and down the streets and nobody and I

remember um and so I went I was with my son who's four years old and we went to New York and

I stayed in a hotel where my you know a block from where my old Studio was Casey's now studio um

and they had free bikes there and we s we spent a little bit of time there and

you know I'm wired for New York I'm my all my software is New York software and uh

it was remarkably easy it was so easy and then it very quickly I was like this

place is so [ __ ] boring there is nothing to do and the things that people make a big

deal out of like there's this thing called tiny Island like the only reason it's a big deal is because it's here in New York and everything's super small and super

expensive here in New York so like this tiny Island thing no one would give a [ __ ] about if it was like basically

anywhere else but because it's in New York City it's like a billion dollar art project essential essentially I mean I'm

very glad Barry Diller built it and it's this sweet little Oasis and they're building more and more of these little oacs like The High Line is remarkable

and wonderful but um what was the question oh that's how I would compare and then La is just like if you're a creative person if you're a person who makes things or builds things like

just no comparison I mean it's like okay car gotta have a car gotta be a person who likes cars likes driving gotta be a

person kind of likes traffic who in traffic has like a way of dealing with traffic that's a little bit Pleasant things are prettier here you can see

further in La you can see further distances in La you have an ocean there's a main Highway that goes down and it on your right is the Pacific

Ocean and you can see almost every day you can see Surfers there and if you need to um you know you need quarter inch steel in

La you just go get it you need you know to go to a sawmill and get like a 18 foot by four foot wide piece of wood in

La there is a sawmill you know there's things happen more slowly here because I they're further apart but the resources

are more forgivable like in New York City I had an assistant thrown in jail for spray painting on the street and I

don't mean graffiti I mean he had a piece of cardboard he had little letters that were white and he needed to spray paint them black and he was spray painting them black

and a cop cane That's a jailable offense throw them in jail can't spray paint in New York can't spray paint objects that you own in New York

I mean I don't know if it's like that anymore because it's like supposed to be very like they're letting all the criminals run

the thing but um it depends like you know I don't know I think if I was uh if I wasn't such

like a dirty Hands-On person I would like it more if I was a person who wasn't like a person who builds and makes and I would like New York more

because there's more services there like it's cheaper it's cheaper it is I mean maybe not the

apartments but like apartment like but house plus Insurance Plus

um gas plus car is more expensive here I think than uh than apartment in New York so you don't need any of those other

things and you can ride a bicycle and get anywhere and um but I remember when I was in New York thinking God I do not

remember it being so cheap I cannot believe it's this cheap like around here California is the richest

state in the richest country in the world we have people worth 100 billion dollars who live here in California we have

um you know our hotels and then like I think just maybe the median incomes more so like in la like a nice hotel

oh my God it's like it's it's like you know like the Santa Barbara Four Seasons or

whatever it's 800 and I think that's a [ __ ] deal I think if you get a deal you can get it for 800 it's like a thousand

and then in New York if you want to because Santa Barbara is not Los Angeles in New York if you want to go outside of

the Manhattan or you can get whatever you can get you know the nicest hotel that exists for for that kind of money

but uh but I'm old and um you know Casey loves it and Casey's system is so dialed in

there that I think I would love it if I had if I had like the um like the routine and so forth that he

has he's just great at living anywhere he's just he's great he loves all that

[ __ ] um okay 10 30. I gotta go I gotta eat I'm about to pass out uh great to see you guys and I mean get to read your

questions and uh have a good have a good weekend wow the lighting got very weird all of a sudden okay take care

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People Referenced

Casey Neistat, Tom Sachs, Jack Conte, Pomplamoose, Colin and Samir, Bob Dylan, Ice-T, Dr. Dre, Eminem, Beastie Boys, Peter Zeihan, Ryan Holiday, Bill Burr, Mr. Beast, Emma Chamberlain

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